So really internet? Really?
That isn't me on Deviant Art. I have never had a DA account. Ever. And I don't intend to seeing as how the moderators can't even get off their fat asses to ban the fake who's stealing my shitty quality, trashy cam pics I take for my twitter fans--I'd be the last to claim they were "art".
Kimberly Kane's, Ellen Stagg's, Bob Coulter's photos of me may be art. But not the ones this fake of mine is putting on Deviant Art in my name.
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personally i find the "art or porn" discussion kind of fun to look into. by definition, porn is a form of art. art is meant to tantalize your senses, to arouse an emotional feeling, to bring a connection to the viewer and the artist. what better example than pornography? it's easy to see the attraction and there's many different genres of it. porn is no different than any other art form to come before it: painting, theatre, photography, film. they've all been looked down upon at some point in history, but have all risen up and become a staple in human perception.
i'm not vouching for this thief, even if some people claim that "artists should be honored that someone would want to pose as them", it's still disrespectful to steal someone's work and circulate it as their own... i'm just saying you should reconsider your outlook on even the crappy fun pics you take yourself, b/c there is a sort of artistic aesthetic to them, kind of in the same way the Hipster crowd likes using vintage cameras to get that "edgy" look.
I beg to differ.
While posing as you by means of posting your photos definitely is impudent as well as childish, and the medium used may lack artistic value, the depicted subject can very well be considered a piece of fine art.
Well, there's your problem. You're a piece of art as well as a person, so it makes sense that they'd want to steal photos of you
Well unlike everyone else that posted, I appreciate that you acknowledge that your playful webcam pics aren't art.
Being an art student means I have to have this annoying discussion all of the time, and I've come to the conclusion that if the artist says it is art, it is. You're the "artist" and you say it's not, so it's not. My first blog post was on this subject, but I won't be offended if no one bothers to read it XD
Anyway, I wouldn't pay much mind to deviant art. There's no real consequences you suffer as the result of this fake.At least none that I can think of. I could be wrong.
It´s totally inacceptable for people to pretend to be someone else in these kind of situations. I hope the sight has done or will do something about it.
@Gasmasquerade: well the fake account holder is selling some of my pics on there and also I've been informed by another DA member who is a fan of mine--the fake can earn money from DA by getting members to joing via links or something to his/her page. Which is totally not cool and I don't feel that my photos are appropriate material for the site, and of course now I'm getting a bad rep with actual artists on the site who also think that the photos are inappropriate.
i know it's a crappy thing to have to do, but maybe you should start posting a copyright watermark on your pics. that way, if they're re-used by anyone other than you, you can issue a cease and desist order. it's not right that someone's trying to profit off of something you're gifting to your fans.
geez that sucks :( good luck with this bs Mandy
Isn't this VERY close to identity theft? I mean your pictures, not you, and they are making money off it? That's grounds to sue not only them but the site as well (I wouldn't want that since I am just starting to mess with DA myself but its a serious offense on there part for not doing something about this)
The point here is not if your pictures are art or not, its someone impersonation you and the web site is letting it happen. Threatening legal action usually gets peoples attention ;) good luck Mandy my dear
Same reason I don't post my stuff. I have some favorites but after my girlfriend had her stuff stolen I said fuck it to DA. Good idea and all just not managed properly.
I've seen the DA pics. While I don't care to debate the art/not art aspect of them, they ARE how I first learned about you and for THAT, I am grateful. I don't think it's so bad. This person is not misrepresenting you in any way, that I know of. I don't see any quotes or comments or statements, it merely seems to be an account with your name and some pictures. There are some of your SG pics there. As a member of the DA community I like having your pics there, but would much rather it be your account. DA moderators can't police something like that especially since most account names are not real names like "SaggyAss." If it really bothers you maybe if you did sign up you could contest the name, as it is REALLY yours. Don't sweat it, doesn't seem to be doing you any harm and probably has brought you a lot more fans.
Well, if you're going to steal, then steal from the best. FOR THE HORDE!!
@wascawwy:
It is utter and absolute disrespect for me. It would be disrespectful to do that to anyone, model, painter, photographer, author, illustrator, ect.
NOT FLATTERY.
@Wascawwy:
Wow you totally are missing the point! I certainly am being misrepresented! Those photos were NOT MEANT for that website and a stranger has no right to post any of my pics for SALE without my permission and USE MY NAME pretending to be me to get those sales.
There were quotes, fake journal entries, he hijacked my twitter feed withOUT my authorization, and has probably written to people pretending to BE ME!
How is that ok with you?!
This person is NOT SAYING "This ISN'T MANDY MORBID -- I'm just a fan." Which it should have said.
Ugh.
I say lawsuit.
Oh damn, I didn't realize that. I forgot DA sells prints. Sorry :\ I think, though, that the best way for you to report the person is by creating an account on the site unfortunately.
Mandy,
I'm sorry. No, I never meant to say it was cool to impersonate you and especially not to make money off of your images. I think I was only trying to make you feel not so upset, since the photos did have 'some' positive effects. I found you and I'm sure others have as well because of them. That doesn't make it right, NO.
Here's some good news though. As of right now: ALL those photos in that account are GONE!!!!! It's a paid premium membership so DA has to have a credit card and knows who it is. Looks like you got through to them.
There are several tribute drawings, paintings images of you up there. Many are really great. One person said they contacted you for permission, but it was probably the impostor. Most DA folk are really kewl and respectful of people's rights. I hope you like the illustrations. Seems like they were all done out of love.
Here's another bit of info that might comfort you. The stolen pics, which were mostly cam pics were small and very low resolution. DA only sells prints and they give the artist a small commission (20 cents on a 4x6). Those images would have been way too small to even meet the requirement for printing, so it's not too likely that any were sold or even available for sale.
I hope you feel a little better about this. I support YOU!!!!
I'm sorry to hear about all this darlin, it's one thing to be a fan but a whole different story when it comes to takin their stuff, takin their identity, and sellin it for your own profit. Well in the mean time their sitting there cashing in while dragging your reputation and your name through the dirt at the same time. It's such a same hun. Is there anyway we can somehow report them and have enough of us for them to take it down?
Best of luck with it hun, let us know what we can do, you have enough loyal fans out there to stand up for ya
Any progress on the situation hun? Still upset with the imposter deal and can't wait to see it resolved darlin
p.s. did u receive ur necklace hun, if so I hope u liked it
Hachi
@hachivious
Yes I did get the necklace and I was surprised! I didn't expect anyone would get that for me! I loooove it. I've worn it almost everyday since.
So far the account still exists but all the photos and journal entries and such are gone. So progress but no resolution yet.
Thank you all for your support.
groovie blog!
That's we great to hear hun, our wishlist saaid it was your birthday this month so thought it was the perfect present for ya. Oh which reminds me happy birthday hun =)
As far as he DA thing goes I haven't seen anything left up there, just fanart when I search now.
This is totally unrelated, but I wanted to know if you give advice? I wanted to ask some advice of you, and I'm not sure where I should ask it. Sorry to post on your blog about it!
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery unless they get profit for it, then it's plagiarism or downright copyright infringement.
It's not like Mandy doesn't give away enough free stuff anyway. I have no issue stealing MP3's from the RIAA but I don't like the idea of actually profiting from someone's image/work without their consent.
So you say thieves are useless by mid level i say
http://boards.4chan.org/d/res/3511788
and burn all idiots who try to make money by stupidly destroying your reputation.
@mandy morbid I´m from far far away in south america.I dont kown if you kwnow it, but, you are for me lady delirium from Neil Gaiman. and that for me it´s something really kind to says to yo. i wil like chat whit you. if you want, email me.
N.
I don't really know where to put this as it's not exactly on topic: I am curious as to your opinion on the NDP being elected en masse in Quebec. I was personally hoping for an NDP majority as a supporter.
I hope that they can do for the rest of the country what the Bloc Quebecois has done for Quebec: I would love to see an equal standard of living for college students across the country. The regulated, lower tuition fees would be fantastic.
I personally feel that the NDP will try their best to maintain what the Bloc Quebecois has earned for Quebec while fighting to make such steps forward available to the rest of our nation.
Congratulations! the account now seems to have been banned.
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